Katz, Ruth Cecily (198) Arjuna in the Mahabharata: Where Krishna is, there is Victory. So if one actually reaches the Vaikuntha planets he does not return to the material world. State University of New York Press. Devotees like Arjuna are constant companions of the Lord, and whenever the Lord incarnates, the associate devotees also incarnate in order to serve the Lord in different capacities. The idea to take away from Arjuna and Krsna’s relationship in this myth would be that god is one’s true companion in whom rests a perfect relationship (Katz 83). c) Indra. After reading this explanation, I have come to conclude that nothing is better, in this material world, than to be true devotee of Vasydeva, Shree Krishna. It is seen as the perfect friendship with complete trust, enlightenment, teaching and support (Katz 82). That is the cycle of the four yugas [staya, tretya, dwarpa and kali] times a thousand. Although Arjuna is a devotee of the Lord sometimes he forgets the nature of the Lord, but by the divine grace a devotee can at once understand the infallible condition of the Lord whereas a nondevotee or a demon can not understand this transcendental nature. It is the extra characteristic he holds that completes him as a perfect being. to read every word of it. Actually, it was Krishna, in conversation with Arjuna, on the eve of an 18-day battle that would kill about four million (!) There is no problem with this. Just like the sun has sunshine which is made up from an unlimited number of shining particles so this Brahmajoti is the ‘sunshine’ emanating from the Supreme Lord. He comforts them, especially Draupadi, who is upset over her disrobing scene. The friendship between Arjuna and Krishna is the most celebrated bond and comes second only to the relationship between Hanuman and Lord Rama, in the Ramayana. So the best thing is to be chanting Krishna at the time of death then no matter what that moment will be auspicious and you will go back home back to Godhead. University of South Carolina Press. This is there real answer. Unless you open the jar you can not experience the taste of the honey. Maya is very strong. In choosing Krsna as his advisor, Arjuna shows his loyalty and support in his friendship with Krsna. He is a year younger than me. It is not at all of this material world. In the Brahma-samhita Krishna is described as infallible (acyuta) which means that He never forgets Himself even though He is in the material contact. Remember, love, compassion, and understanding conquers all. The manual, the guide, is Srila Prabhupada’s books. How can we tell them that its actually Krishna who is so. For non-devotees Bhagavad-gita will always remain a mystery, even if they read it ten times every day for their whole lives. Krishna says that: duo buta ausar loka deva asura ca, that in this world there are two types of living entities: the devas and the asuras — the divine and the demonic — the devotees and the demons. So you can understand that the battlefield is just an example. Another similarity taken from this story would be that the two men know how to complement one another and by doing so how to fight off other warriors sufficiently. It means that one very fortunate living entity gets the opportunity to associate with a bona fide spiritual master and by pleasing him, by getting his mercy he gets the ‘bhakti lata bija’ which is the seed of the plant of bhakti or devotion. If anyone tells you “god is one” you can know immediately that they are a fool. It even seems to resemble a friendship at times, despite the fact that Arjuna is a human and Krishna is a god. This cow was her only means of support. Krsna, hearing of their exile, rushes out to say goodbye to them and to see them off. So whatever apparent contradictions we see on further investigation we will find they come from our incomplete understanding. Prabhuji what about getting initiated from iskcon GBCs? Even if we can not feel it acting in the beginning…, Just being a curious soul, I would like to know about how actually chanting 16 rounds of. i want to know how the message preached in this book is relevant to the world we live in. The lord himself became Arjuna’s charioteer at Kurukshetra. 4.4). if Lord Krishna didn’t stop time while preaching Gita to arjuna, if everyone could here the Lord’s preachings, then everyone in the battlefield would have come to know the essence of life and everyone would have surrendered to the Lord. They can not help you in spiritual life but are very qualified to hinder your natural advancement in Krishna consciousness…. There is no question of inferior or superior. what would you say about this? know guruji but i hope u will suggest me. It so happened at this time on the battlefield of Kuruksettra that Krishna wanted this war and during the conversation which is Bhagavad Gita Arjuna came to understand this and he surrendered to Krishna telling Him that “I am a soul surrendered unto you, I will do whatever you ask, please instruct me.” So this is the point of the Gita. This need for a teacher as well as another warrior that Arjuna possesses is a common theme throughout this history of literature as well as human life. Anyone who is a constant companion of Krishna like Arjuna is certainly a liberated person but even a liberated person can not be equal to the Lord. Yes. But she had a cow. So my advice is to have nothing whatsoever to do with ISKCON. Here are Arjuna and Krishna, his charioteer, in between the opposing armies just before the battle, as Krishna reveals to Arjuna the two crucial secrets to our lives: how to know and do your duty, and how to live. It represents a relationship with god himself and how humans should treat god and be treated by god. But Krishna’s energy emanates from Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, just like the sunshine emanates from the sun. So this ‘bhakti lata bija’, the seed of devotional service, is only available from a pure devotee of Krishna, you can not get it from anywhere else. Krishna said. We are the same soul residing in different bodies. So beautifully and well said.This helps a spiritual practitioner in having the right perspective. Prabhu hare Krishna, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and Transcendental Meditation, 6. Guru is not easily available. Hare Krishna Prabhu, Spoken by a figureless voice, comparisons between Arjuna to the god Visnu are made (Katz 29). b) Because of his power. This was on the battlefield of Kurukshetra. So Krishna was speaking to Arjuna to encourage him to fight. So everything is Krishna’s energy. It is confusing for the general population because Krishna appeared on this earth as the son of Devaki. Coming back to Krishna’s words to Daruka on Arjuna, we can see through his love for the third Pandava. and which only eleven men would survive. dear sir, Krishna can do anything. 100% nonsense and they can not help you advance in Krishna consciousness, rather they will drag you away from Prabhupada and away from Krishna. Brahmanadan brahmate kona bhagavan jiva guru krsna prasade paya bhakti lata bija. we hopeless beings really have this hope ultimately…. But as I said never stop chanting Hare Krishna and reading Prabhupada’s books and listening to his lectures and Prabhupada will always answer all your questions and solve all your problems. Hello, There they are simply one shining spiritual atom among the unlimited number of shining spiritual atoms that make up the brahmajoti which is the effulgence of the Supreme Lord. Krishna remembered acts that were performed by Him millions of years before, but Arjuna could not, despite the fact that both Krishna and Arjuna are eternal in nature. Thanks for your email.please explain some Bhagavad-gita slogam with explaination in every mail with related to that content. I am planning to join ISKCON fulltime as brahmachari. They will fall back down into the cycle of birth and death again after some time. Arjuna chooses Krsna as his advisor and chariot driver. And some of the gurus lived more than 100 years…. So as Arjuna surrendered to Krishna in the Gita we also have to surrender to Krishna by surrendering to Krishna’s pure devotee as Krishna directs in the Gita Himself: tad viddhi pranipatnena… “Just approach a bona fide spiritual master, surrender to him, offer obeisances to him, inquire from him submissively, such a pure devotee can give you real knowledge because he has seen the truth.”. That is our purpose. If Krishna didn’t want Arjuna to fight then he wouldn’t have fought in the battle. Krishna did not stop the time. One of the eternal companions of Lord Narayana is Sage Nara. In the brahmajoti the spirit souls there can experience the eternal nature and knowledge but the ananda or bliss comes from relationships. But without surrender to a bona fide spiritual master you can not get any benefit. You can not call anyone you want to your father. So, how to get a guru if there is no benefit of joining ISKCON ? But as you have discovered Srila Prabhupada is still living with us in the form of his transcendental vani, his instruction. Please tell me -If Brahma was the first disciple of Lord Krishna according to parampara and Brahma was the first created being – how long ago was this? You can not reject it like this. He understood his pain and sufferings without Sudama uttering a word. Yes. One is incomplete without the other. Most often the friendships have a bit of a hero complex, meaning that one man is greater than the other, or is seen as more important than the other (Katz 82). It is all nonsense. So by chanting the Hare Krishna mantra you are directly and personally associating with Krishna. In the Gita, Krishna uses grand adjectives to address Arjuna, such as Sabhyasachi (one who is ambidextrous, i.e. But Arjuna was furious at this event and slew the wife of Takshaka with three well placed arrows. He is unlimited in every way, He has unlimited knowledge, unlimited strength, unlimited wisdom, so what is the point in arguing with Him? As long as he can be engaged in Krishna’s service it is all spiritual to him. The relationship starts out in the beginning of the Mahabharata with the birth of Arjuna, the son of the god Indra. That is the only reason for our existence. This defeat of gods and father gives the description of the two men being outside of society’s judgments, as they are going against most of the lessons taught throughout the Mahabharata and killing the entire forest, alive with animals and plants (Rajagoplachari 79). And that sort of yoga is practically impossible to practice now. The Bhagavad Gita begins here and ends with Krishna convincing Arjuna that in the grand scheme of things, he is only a pawn. Preaching Krishna consciousness is not possible by just learning some philosophy and repeating that to others. That was the point. So this liberation of the mayavadis and impersonalists is not permanent. Since then I have been chanting Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, reading and distributing Srila Prabhupada's books and preaching as much as I can. Time, as we experience it, only exists in the material world. The relationship of the two men grows through the devotion and loyalty shown by Arjuna and it is ultimately the saviour of the Pandavas in the Kurukshetra war (Katz 239-248). But time is Krishna. But a devotee never actually returns to the material world. I started seriously reading Srila Prabhupada's books in Australia 1985 and by 1986 Srila Prabhupada had convinced me "Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead" and "we should surrender to Krishna." Krishna explains in the First Verse of the Forth Chapter of Bhagavad Gita: “I instructed this imperishable science of yoga to the sun-god, Vivasvan, and Vivasvan instructed it to Manu, the father of … So my suggestion is to stay away from ISKCON as far as possible. He is the supreme absolute truth, and entire creation rests upon him. Learning from one another as much as learning with one another. Srimad-Bhagavatam is not part of the Mahabharata. CHANT: Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna, Krishna Hare Hare / Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare and be happy! This ultimately leads to that, Bhagavad-gita can purely be understood by his devotee, taking him as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, otherwise, one may fail to understand it truly. So Prabhu don’t worry. Through austerities and meditation Lord Brahma comes to understand that it is his mission to take charge of the secondary creation of the material world. But Mahabharata has no mention to the genesis of this camaraderie, which gave us the celestial Bhagavad Gita, which is regarded as the ultimate philosophical text of the Vedic civilization; inappropriately called as Hindu religion. I don’t know If I am concocting or on the right path. He accepts the dualism and at the same time accepts the oneness. We can not control time. Krishna had hoped for the same, being Arjuna’s best friend, and in this case, also the perfect wingman. It is useless to get initiated from ISKCON gurus. More than 1,800 Hours of NEW PRABHUPADA AUDIO! They were friends from a long time back. It continues throughout the massive epic to grow and change as the two men grow and learn how to deal with life’s lessons and how to be dharmic in every scenario. No one can understand Bhagavad-gita unless they become a devotee of Krishna like Arjuna. You can please click on the unsubscribe link at the bottom of the emails and we will not send any more mails to you. I can remember all of them, but you cannot.” (Bg. The conversation between Krishna and Arjuna was for the benefit of the whole world to hear. I read the Newsletters several times. But we can not overcome the forces of time. Krishna and Arjuna were born on the same day. The war happened because Krishna wanted it. But this is all material. There is no need for physical presence. Prabhupada did not leave us, he is still with us in his books and other transcendental vani. He lies on Sesa-Naga, an incarnation of Balarama in the form of a giant serpent and rests there. I desireto find out the way to deeply learn the Gita and the Vedanta taexts, Thank You Very Much for giving this oppotunity. I liked this presentation except for the concern that you had mentioned about serving maya in the final phrase. The only difference is that in spiritual life everyone is serving Krishna, in material life everyone is serving maya. We have everything that the devotees had in Prabhupada’s presence and more actually. If we do not follow the program he gives us we can not expect to become well, to become spiritually healthy, to become Krishna conscious. What we are experiencing is Krishna’s energies working in different wonderful ways…. I appreciate all your hard work and devotion in informing to us all about our father (Krishna); I love to learn as much as I can about our father in an attempt to better myself little by little. Where did you get this bogus idea. That is maya. And it is not that even in Prabhupada’s physical presence devotees did not have problems. But Krishna’s body and His self are identical therefore His position is always different from the position of the ordinary living entity, even when Krishna descends to this material world. He does not care actually: Heaven, Hell, the Spiritual World. Mahabharata is an introductory book for the less intelligent generally speaking. ISKCON will not encourage you to surrender to a a bona fide spiritual master. No. Also the Vyasa in the disciplic succesion,- Is that the same person who compiled ALL the Vedas ?Is Srimad Bhagavatam part of The Mahabarata ? That is the success of life. In the Bhagavad-Gita, the relationship between Arjuna, the story’s hero and Krishna, the avatar, or incarnation of the Hindu god Vishnu, is indeed a very personal one. Maya is illusion. So the latter brought down heavy rainst… He then abducts the princess causing anger and an uproar within Krsna’s family. This surrender most do not want to do… So they do not want Srila Prabhupada as their guru, because they do not want to surrender. This story starts out with the two, now brothers, running into the fire god Agni, who is hungry and asks to be fed. When the fighting was going on, Ashvatthm, the son of Dronacharya, unceremoniously attacked Krishna, although according to the prevailing rules of chivalry one's chariot driver should never be attacked by the enemy. That is the manual. PAMHO.AGTSP.Thank you very much for your reply. He was thinking that Krishna is his friend and they were both born around the same time so how is it possible that Krishna spoke the Bhagavad-gita to the sun-god some millions of years ago? What is this fear? But Takshaka, the serpent-king lived in the same forest and was a friend of Indra's. how and what kind of change it’ll bring to us gradually ? Among Arjuna's wives is Subhadra, Krishna's sister, the son of Arjuna and Subhadra is Abhimanyu, who dies in the Kuruksetta war. This duality is always there in the material world. Krishna’s connection with his childhood friend Sudama was ethereal. In popular understanding, Arjuna is considered the hero of the Mahabharata, primarily because he receives the wisdom of the Gita from Krishna. does Bg justify war? To always remember Krishna and never forget Krishna. Srila Prabhupada gives us a very nice description of Arjuna in SB 1.12.21p and Karna in SB 1.15.16p. Your uncle is wrong. baba i belived that god is one and have different form whenever i hav please guide us, There is no need for physical presence. The thing is if we want to become Krishna conscious then we have to follow the program that Srila Prabhupada gives us. But that does not mean he can not return to the material world. b) The sun-god. But it is not really about the fighting. And the cure for that disease is reading Prabhupada’s books and chanting Hare Krishna. He is in our disciplic succession. London: Praegers Publishers. There are only two types of people, demons and devotees. I can not understand why you can not see you already have a guru. I feel Krishna and Arjuna exhibited how to maintain close friendship throughout a lifetime. Arjuna is already Krishna’s eternal devotee and already a soul completely surrendered to Krishna. Arjuna is one of these devotees, and in this verse it is understood that some millions of years ago when Lord Krishna spoke the Bhagavad Gita to the sun-god Vivasvan, Arjuna, in a different capacity, was also present. Krishna’s bond with Arjun is depicted at the turn of every course in the Mahabharata. They think that now Prabhupada is dead and gone they no longer have to follow Prabhupada’s instructions and they are constantly changing everything. It is surcharged with disobedience to and envy of Srila Prabhupada and full of ‘devotees’ who are trying to eclipse Srila Prabhupada [without any success…] Anyone who is a sincere follower of Srila Prabhupada is very quickly driven out of ISKCON. Listen to his classes, go with him on his morning walks, sit with him as he talks with his disciples and with famous people all over the world, and of course most importantly, read his books…. Its my only wish that he keep my devotional service intact , eternally…. Thank you for your all news letter, about guru only His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada Is real guru others are only respectable, not for worship . But to accept him as your guru you have to surrender to him and agree to do things that you probably don’t want to do. But really I do not think anyone is going to become Krishna conscious by hearing what I have got to say. Whatever realizations I have, whatever knowledge I have, it is simply from chanting Hare Krishna and reading Srila Prabhupada’s books. The fear will go away and be replaced with joy: https://krishnastore.com/bhagavad-gita-as-it-is-with-bonus-dvd-h-krishna-407.html, please can you unsubscribe me, I have been using my work email while I am waiting to fix my home computer, but it is becoming inconvenient for me to keep receiving emails at work, I will still keep in touch The devotion that is shown by Arjuna for Krsna is a model throughout the Mahabharata. He is like a very expert doctor and he knows our disease and he also knows the cure. thank you for taking all the hard work and replying for our comments ! The two gods have a friendship themselves and the friendship between Arjuna and Krsna hints at the same friendship as the one shared between the two father gods (Katz 83). Also about Maha Samadi – Can a healthy person choose the moment to leave his body? The Hare Krishna maha-mantra is a transcendental vibration descending from the spiritual world. He also needed a teacher to help him with his duties in his life as a warrior. Arjuna and Krsna have what is described as a perfect warrior-friend relationship. arjunan status in tamil,arjunan whatsapp status in tamil, krishna and arjuna friendship An episode in the Padma Purana – which is the book on Krishna’s knowledge and power and his life with Radha, a chapter talks about the friendship of Arjuna and Krishna. Dear guru ji.. thank u so much for making me understand and for explaining deeply about the eternal divine and powerful god lord krishna.. Madhudvisa dasa My first contact with a Hare Krishna was a most merciful Mataji in Oxford Street, London who sold me a "Higher Taste" cook book in 1984 while I was on holidays there. It certainly is transient but true and this dynamics is permanent, real and distinct. 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